a dem to vote republican?

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I started very much on the fence in this campaign. But the fence was between Hillary and Barack. See I'm a demacrat. But the more I hear and the more I learn, I'm starting to lean toward McCain. Being from Illinois, I know what political system Obama came through. I do NOT want our government run with Illinois like politics. It's beyond corrupt. It was soooo much easier when it was Gore v. Bush.. How we ever go stuck with Bush I don't know. But I digress...
So there I was on the fence, and then McCain chooses Sarah Palin. What a terrific move! I really like her chutzpah, she's tough and apparently has strong convictions. I deeply admire her for having a political career and having a solid family. I actually think that her distance from Washington politics is an asset. Only an outsider can see the real problem.
Also, it's quite a testament to how far women have come. From the dutiful wife and mother (June Cleaver style) through the feminists (Steinam style and now we've reached this balance of family/career/wife/woman that I think is healthier. Though I don't believe it's easy. All in all I like her alot. I'd like to see her in the White house and all those little ones running all over CNN every day.
I've always like McCain for his integrity and I think he'll get good advisors and be an excellent leader.

But my biggest problems with the republicans are:
1) I'm pro-choice. I can't stand the thought of Roe v.Wade being overturned.
2) I'm not religious. I don't want religion involved in decision about my country or certainly about the laws of my country.
3) I'm pretty green. I'm not miss 'no carbon foot-print' but I have a garden, and a rain barrel, composter and Prius and I try really hard to keep things local when it comes to food and I recycle.
4) I'm against the war. Always was, always will be. I'm not against ALL war, but I'm against this one.

So how am I to vote for McCain/Palin?? How can I vote against my own convictions, yet really admire and like the Republicans over the Dems?

I'm so conflicted this year!

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Kudos to you for thinking

Kudos to you for thinking long and hard about who you are going to vote for. It is a daunting task, but the more you do it, the more you realize how necessary it is.

Based on what you think of Barack, and the issues that are important to you, you may want to consider looking into the Independent and Green Party candidates or even the Libertarian candidate who is running.

Ralph Nader: Independent

Cynthia McKinney: Green Party

Ron Paul: Libertarian (I think he officially pulled out of the race, but I am pretty sure his supporters are still going to vote for him)

Americans need to know that we can and do have other options. The three candidates above have some similarities, but also have significant differences. None of them have a chance in hell of winning, but if you want to vote according to a conscience that can't rest with the other candidates, check them out. Also, the more people vote outside traditional party lines, the more America has a chance of being a true democracy.

Wasting your Vote

BeautyMark--You've mentioned before that you're planning to vote for an alternative candidate.

I think you probably know that none of the candidates you've mentioned have a prayer of garnering any kind of vote, not even enough to count as a "protest" vote.

Not voting for one of the two major candidates amounts to sitting out the election. Remember Florida where Bush won by 500-something votes. Every vote really does count. I'd urge you not to waste yours on what really amounts to an empty gesture. (Perhaps not to you, but certainly in terms of impact and perception.)

John McCain's ninety-three-year-old mother said during the primaries that people she hoped people would "hold their noses" and vote for John.

I hope you'll do the same and vote for one of the major candidates.

it's a matter of timing

I think the time to vote for a third party (or 4th, 5th or 6th!) is in the primaries. That's when we narrow the field.

But I agree with you normal56, I think it's important to put your vote where it will be heard.

"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today."

-- James Dean

Not only do I know that none

Not only do I know that none of them have a chance, my exact words were "they don't have a chance in hell of winning."

I am a bit confused though, does every vote count only if you vote for one of the two major parties or does every vote really count? I mean why isn't anyone concerned with why we no nothing about the other candidates? I think Ron Paul is a bit whacky but I can't believe that he (along with Dennis Kucinich (who is a democrat) Cynthia McKinney Ralph Nader, and others) are continuously denied access to debates and media coverage throughout the primaries. Intentionally! The rational is always that there isn't enough interest in those candidates to give them a platform to speak!@#$!@ How can you generate interest if you are shut out??

My vote is not a protest vote by any means. I am choosing to vote for the person that I want to be in office. I respect my right to vote too much to use it just to make a point or to protest.

I refuse to vote for candidates who think it is honorable to kill a couple of suspected "enemies" even if it means dropping bombs on entire civilian inhabited villages whether it was in Vietnam or Iraq, and I refuse to vote for candidates whose platforms are based on fear and uber inflated and/or unsubstantiated terrorist risks.

I also don't want to vote for a candidate who openly and emphatically condemns abuses of our Civil Liberties, like the telecom immunity scandal only to see him rescind later. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/us/politics/02fi...

These issues (though they are just the tip of the ice berg) are not a matter of personality or whether or not someone gives me goosebumps when they speak. These are issues of respect for humanity and civil rights that are in question.

If you are talking about Bush's first term, I am pretty sure he didn't legitimately win that state.

More...

I didn't suggest you vote for McCain. I suggested you "hold your nose" and vote for one of the two candidates.

Fringe candidates are denied access to debates based on opinion polls that show the depth of their popularity with voters. If there weren't some controls, the networks and cables companies would have to offer platforms to anyone who knocked on the door.

I'm sure Bush did win. The New York Times sent a squadron of reporters to Florida after the election to do a recount. He did win...by that narrow margin.

No worries! I didn't think

No worries! I didn't think you were telling me to vote for McCain.

I think that all candidates who are running for office, who are legally qualified for the presidency should have equal representation in the media. I don't think the media should make the decision to determine who is popular. They go by the polls they prefer to go by. How is that a democratic process?

And don't even get me started on how money is a part of this!!!

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/E/htmlE/equaltim...

Besides, Kucinich was excluded from the debates in Iowa (prior to the Iowa Caucuses-which is REALLY important in establishing one's campaign) on the grounds that he didn't have a storefront in Iowa?!? Yet Alan Keyes, who was less favored than Kuchinich who did NOT have a storefront in Iowa was included??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RXFWojq3Uc

Also, Bush "winning" by 500 or so doesn't leave account for the thousands of black voters whose votes didn't count.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/dec/04/uselec...

And it wasn't just anyone knocking on doors, it was US Congressmen and Women who have the qualifications and legal right to be heard fairly.

This is very true. Thanks

This is very true. Thanks for reminding us of these other choices.

Freda 

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I'm at home watching the

I'm at home watching the republican national convention and some amazing speeches were given, especially the one by Sarah Palin. I know this is just the beginning for her and she has a long way to go, has many issues to address and must prove herself, but I like her and think we should give her a shot and let her try to win our hearts over. This years election is certainly getting very interesting! I think she really kicked butt in her speech tonight. I am excited to see this presidential campaign play out. It certainly has me on the edge of my seat.   

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GOP Exciting?

Who would have thought the GOP convention would have been so exciting? Fabulous!!!

You know I never thought it

You know I never thought it would be so exciting and I was completely drawn in watching it. It was very exciting and I am right there with you, I am very much interested in watching the debate. I think she can hold her own. 

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she was terrific!

What a great speech. I can't wait for her debate with Biden.

"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today."

-- James Dean

A great orator does not

A great orator does not always mean truthful orator.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/story?i...

I am curious to know what reps and dems will say in response to our attack on Pakistan today.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Suspected-...

How do we justify this?

Cool Pic!

Cool Pic!

Good Comments

I am a registered Republican but consider myself a moderate because I also don't support 100% of the party beliefs/positions. I am also pro-choice because I believe it is the woman's choice on something that will effect her entire life - it isn't the government's choice. But I chose to be Republican because I don't want more government programs that keep enabling people to rely on MY hard-earned money (the taxes I pay) to support them (i.e., welfare). I am a business owner, so I don't want to see higher taxes. I also feel that no matter how a person feels about the Iraq war, I'd much rather fight terrorists on their land versus ours. It is a naive thought to assume we are immune to further attacks, unless we are proactive in preventing them. The radical Muslims believe we are their enemy and "all infidels must die," so no one can reason with those thoughts. We must have a military that can defend our way of life.

I don't think a person needs to agree with a party or person on all of the issues, but if you agree with the majority of their positions, that is a better way to lean. I LOVED LOVED LOVED Sara Palin's speech tonight because everything she said was indication of her strength, personal character, and leadership experience. This quote: "The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good, and to leave this nation better than we found it. No one expects us to agree on everything. But we are expected to govern with integrity, good will, clear convictions, and ... a servant's heart." I also loved how she has a proven record of reform in her own state: "That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work. And I thought we could muddle through without the governor's personal chef - although I've got to admit that sometimes my kids sure miss her. I came to office promising to control spending - by request if possible and by veto if necessary. Senator McCain also promises to use the power of veto in defense of the public interest - and as a chief executive, I can assure you it works."

I am like you, I research my candidates before making my choices (this was also a suggestion in a different blog) and I like the facts I have uncovered about McCain & Palin (no one candidate will be flawless or perfect) but sensible and logical and working for the common citizen are key factors.

CHEERS to your comments!

 I couldn't agree more. I

 I couldn't agree more. I am pro-choice as well but think it is a woman's decision to choose. I just hate to see abortion used as a form of birth control. Nonetheless, god forbid if I ever found myself in a difficult situation like rape or something......I would want that choice to be mine.

I don't know if I could have a child with down syndrome but I respect people who do make that choice. I think they some of the most amazing people, committed and incredibly strong.

I think the way in which she delicately handled the pro-choice situation was just fantastic. I hope that she would be for women making good choices. The last thing this world needs is children being brought into by parents who never wanted them in the first place.

Freda 

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Together We Can Do It!

While you and I may pull

While you and I may pull different levers on Voting day we are similar in that we do our homework and support what we believe is important Eye-wink

I hear you on not wanting your money to go to what seems like worthless causes, but I think it is an overstatement to attribute irresponsible govt spending to social welfare...

http://borgenproject.org/Defense_Spending.html

What about...

Corporate Welfare? Should the government provide subsidies and tax breaks to Corporations who clearly don't need it?

Should tax money be used to fund multi-million dollar Sports Arenas, Agribusinesses, Executive Bonuses, or Corporate bail out packages? The philosophy behind Corporate welfare is that it stimulates the economy and therefore benefits everyone. At least that's what lobbyists pay lots of money to convey.

I have always worked in the non-profit sector and I can tell you if it weren't for federally funded programs there would be no assistance for victims of crime, and it is well known that being a victim often leads to being a
perpetrator (or having kids who are.) Talk about homeland security!!

We lose funding under republican leadership every couple years (at least). We literally have to fight to get it back. Not just ask, I'm talking campaign, rally, write letters, and have drag out, knock down fights to continue to provide comprehensive services to domestic violence, rape, and violent crime victims. You'd think we were handing out free money to crack heads or something.

I'm pretty sure these types of social program are not the ones you are opposed to, but the fact remains that the amount of money spent on social welfare in the U.S. is pretty minimal. In my opinion, the amount of those who abuse the system is inflated way beyond the amount who legitimately need it and don't abuse it.

There is always a risk of people abusing government money, whether it is the poverty stricken divorced mom of 4, or the multi-million dollar company CEO.

Agree with you

Beautymark, I actually agree with you on the "corporate welfare" issue and funding going toward big businesses versus the victims of crimes and/or the programs you mentioned. It is the handouts, to people that continue to expect them (i.e., mothers who keep making babies just to get more welfare) that bothers me. I feel we need to be rewarding people for their achievements and successes versus providing gvmt aid to those that never try to make themselves/their life better (drug addicts that can't stay clean). I believe the more people rely on the gvmt to take care of them, the more upset they get when the programs are taken away. As someone who does work for my living and take pride in my accomplishments, I don't want to be funding (via higher taxes) programs that keep enabling people to depend on the gvmt. Granted there are times (i.e., natural disasters, unusual hardships or disabilities) that should have assistance. Financial aid to those that are disabled, victims of crime, disasters, etc. is justifiable. Financial aid to those that just plain lack motivation or put forth an effort, should be stopped. I believe people should be given the opportunity to make their lives better - kinda like the analogy - "give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime," but not just given a handout because they refuse to learn something new or work.

You mentioned on many occasions how you can't have pride for your country or pledge allegiance. I have to wonder if you've visited other countries or have thought of trying to live somewhere else, just to see if you would find better opportunities or government systems. Anyone who continually states negative feelings toward their country or government should be proactive in making changes or (for their own insight) try another country. To simplify, I've worked with people that continually complain about their job or the place they work, so I've told them - if you don't like it, find another job - same goes for those that keep a negative view of their country.

I have had friends that are from other countries and they chose to make America their home because of the opportunities they have here. Life is only as good as you make it. I like the quote, "change your thoughts, change your life." I'm sure there isn't one perfect government (or person for that matter), so if you dig deep enough and look for the negatives and only focus on that, then that is what you will see. Personally, I try to find the positives and then work on fixing the negatives when I can (I see the glass as half full versus half empty).

Could not have said it any better...

... you nailed it, sacey0612!

...this is my first blog ever. You are all very inspiring bloggers! I'm in my late 30's and this is the first election I've ever been really passionate about. Why? (a) I’m getting wiser with age, and (b) because as a woman who runs a small, but growing business, I have a lot to lose here. Our company has just started hiring more people and adding insurance benefits for employees. Our hope is to start an employee ownership plan in the next year or two. However, we cannot grow if we are burdened with more and more taxes! More people working and receiving insurance benefits is much better than more uninsured people receiving unemployment benefits!!!

I am registered R but do not necessarily agree with all the R platforms. I am pro-life, but like many Republican women, I do not believe the government should be involved in a women's right to choose what is best for her own wellbeing. Thankfully, I've never had to even think about it from a personal standpoint.

I truly believe that if government … local, state and federal… were forced to justify every penny spent, develop budgets from $0, eliminate wasteful job functions, and be more realistic with their own benefits packages, there would be more than enough money to appropriately fund education and other important programs. I do not believe that all these important programs should be funded by penalizing individuals and businesses for being successful. People in America have the right to dream, work hard to achieve their dreams and reap the rewards of their hard work. We have the right to earn to our potential and the right to give as we choose. Take from the rich and give to the poor only creates more dependence on government – do we really want to become a socialist society?

Last night, I attended a fundraiser for Kids Beating Cancer. I wish I could have been one of the big donors in the banquet room, but I did what I could. I have been attending such events for several years and it’s really sad to see such an extreme decrease in giving this year. You could see in the faces across the room that people truly wanted to give more. I’m pretty sure that all charity organizations are feeling the impact of the economy.

The best community support programs are not government sponsored / run programs, but the ones created from the hearts of people who are passionate about their causes and are supported by businesses and working people. I have met several women who have started non-profit organizations that fill vital needs in their communities. These women ensure that a very high percentage of the money donated to support their causes actually goes to the cause by keeping their administrative costs at a minimum. How many government-run organizations can you say this about?

Politics are so difficult because personal situations are different for everyone. I try very hard to keep my opinions to myself to avoid offending anyone and it can be frustrating at times. I appreciate a venue to express myself where women can chat intelligently without taking offence to differing viewpoints.

What a great response! I

What a great response! I don't think people realize or maybe they don't care about the thousands os small businesses that will go out of business and create even higher unemployment rates then ever as a direct result of higher taxes.

Many companies are just barely hanging on. No one really gets to hear that side of the story.

Thanks for joining and posting!

Great Post!
XOXO,
Freda
Founder
www.AlphaWomen.com
"Those Who Say It Can't Be Done Need To Get Out Of The Way Of Those Who Are Doing It!"

Only 10% of your hard earned

Only 10% of your hard earned tax dollars go to social welfare programs. 50% goes to defense spending. If you are concerned about how your hard earned tax dollars are spent you should vote for a candidate who will lower our astronomical 500+ BILLION dollar year defense budget that not only serves to "protect" Americans, but also serves to arm the world and fuel a defense dependent economy.

"The greatest danger emanating U.S. arms transfers and military aid programs is not in the numbers, but in the potential impacts on the image, credibility and security of the United States. Arming repressive regimes in all corners of the globe while simultaneously proclaiming a campaign for democracy and against tyranny undermines the credibility of the United States in international forums and makes it harder to hold other nations to high standards of conduct on human rights and other key issues. Arming undemocratic governments all too often helps to enhance their power, frequently fueling conflict or enabling human rights abuses in the process. These blows to the reputation of the United States are in turn impediments to winning the "war of ideas" in the Muslim world and beyond, a critical element in drying up financial and political support for terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda. Last but not least, in all too many cases, U.S. arms and military technology can end up in the hands of U.S. adversaries, as happened in the 1980s in Iraq and Panama, as well as with the right-wing fundamentalist "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan, many of whom are now supporters of al-Qaeda."

For the full article go to: http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/w...

Could not have said it any better...

... you nailed it, sacey0612!

...this is my first blog ever. You are all very inspiring bloggers! I'm in my late 30's and this is the first election I've ever been really passionate about. Why? (a) I’m getting wiser with age, and (b) because as a woman who runs a small, but growing business, I have a lot to lose here. Our company has just started hiring more people and adding insurance benefits for employees. Our hope is to start an employee ownership plan in the next year or two. However, we cannot grow if we are burdened with more and more taxes! More people working and receiving insurance benefits is much better than more uninsured people receiving unemployment benefits!!!

I am registered R but do not necessarily agree with all the R platforms. I am pro-life, but like many Republican women, I do not believe the government should be involved in a women's right to choose what is best for her own wellbeing. Thankfully, I've never had to even think about it from a personal standpoint.

I truly believe that if government … local, state and federal… were forced to justify every penny spent, develop budgets from $0, eliminate wasteful job functions, and be more realistic with their own benefits packages, there would be more than enough money to appropriately fund education and other important programs. I do not believe that all these important programs should be funded by penalizing individuals and businesses for being successful. People in America have the right to dream, work hard to achieve their dreams and reap the rewards of their hard work. We have the right to earn to our potential and the right to give as we choose. Take from the rich and give to the poor only creates more dependence on government – do we really want to become a socialist society?

Last night, I attended a fundraiser for Kids Beating Cancer. I wish I could have been one of the big donors in the banquet room, but I did what I could. I have been attending such events for several years and it’s really sad to see such an extreme decrease in giving this year. You could see in the faces across the room that people truly wanted to give more. I’m pretty sure that all charity organizations are feeling the impact of the economy.

The best community support programs are not government sponsored / run programs, but the ones created from the hearts of people who are passionate about their causes and are supported by businesses and working people. I have met several women who have started non-profit organizations that fill vital needs in their communities. These women ensure that a very high percentage of the money donated to support their causes actually goes to the cause by keeping their administrative costs at a minimum. How many government-run organizations can you say this about?

Politics are so difficult because personal situations are different for everyone. I try very hard to keep my opinions to myself to avoid offending anyone and it can be frustrating at times. I appreciate a venue to express myself where women can chat intelligently without taking offence to differing viewpoints.

In Response...

"You mentioned on many occasions how you can't have pride for your country or pledge allegiance. I have to wonder if you've visited other countries or have thought of trying to live somewhere else, just to see if you would find better opportunities or government systems."

Yes, I have said that I can't pledge allegiance to ANY nation, because to me it is a form of idolatry to an abstract idea. That does not mean that I don't call America my home, and it doesn't give anyone else the right to suggest that if I don't like things about this country to go somewhere else. That seems like a contradictory idea to what it means to be an American.

I have stated numerous times that I am very grateful to live in the US and very grateful for the experiences and opportunities I have as an American-especially as a woman!

There are 49 countries represented at my graduate school and I am fully aware of the extremely difficult obstacles women from other countries face just to go to school! I have not lived in another country, but only because that opportunity has never presented itself. My family was lucky if we got to travel to the beach once a year let alone go to another country. I am hoping to travel more when I am done with grad school.

The fact that I have not lived in another country has no bearing on what I know the U.S. has done to make life shitty for other countries. One thing we agree on is that the U.S. takes care of its own. And while the U.S. may have our token charity cases, we heap much destruction (economic and political) on other countries which in turn causes people to want to come here, because (ironically) we take care of "our own."

Want an end to Mexican immigration??? Tell American companies to stop marketing American products/ways of life to Mexicans who have no way of attaining such "ways" other than to seek the fruits of American consumerism in AMERICA!!!!

I have a friend/neighbor from Norway. We talk politics all the time. Norway has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. They have some of the highest taxes, but they have national health insurance, national education (through college) and no one is ever in jail for more than 24 years. No life sentences, no death sentences. He is baffled by the way we do things. He expected the US to be more "compassionate" (his word not mine) but has perceived our ways of doing things as angry, reactive, individualistic, divisive, and not in the best interest of human beings who don't fit certain criteria.

Honestly though, going to another country WILL cause a homesickness for American conveniences (I have NEVER denied that.) But it will make me even more angry at how the U.S. has contributed to global conditions of this world.

I don't state negative "feelings" toward my country. This has nothing to do with my "feelings." I have stated conditions and policies that our country has participated in that I think are unjust, inhumane, and unethical. I am not going to pretend I don't know those things exist and I am going to do the best I can to prevent others from denying them as well. That IS how I make changes in my country.

Your job analogy doesn't quite fit for me either because its not about "not liking it." It's like this: What if you worked for a great company in a fantastic job but the company you worked for was seriously corrupt and many of the people you worked with either denied the corruption or enjoyed their paychecks or the people they worked with so much that they justified the illegal action as necessary. I would hope that simply quitting would not be an option. I'd think you'd have to somehow, in whatever way possible bring to light what was wrong.

I believe in standing up against issues in proportion to how they affect people who are least able to stand up for themselves. With only 10% of the annual budget going to ALL of social welfare programs, the fact that a percentage of that 10% are abusing the system is not a concern that is at the top of my priority list. When the government spends half of its annual budget (your hard earned money) on defense spending (more than any other country in the world)I think there is a problem that will affect me no matter what country I live in. That's where I choose to focus my energy.

There is not a country in the world that is not affected by U.S. foreign policy. If I moved to another country I'd have less opportunity to bring to light our country's shortcomings.

If I had to "pledge allegiance" to anything, it would be to an ideal that puts as much value on other people and places as we do to our own.

In short, I ain't goin' anywhere.

Pro Choice and the GOP

Deannak--I, too, am pro-choice, despite being GOP. However, please understand that it is misleading in the extreme to think a president or vp can "take away" abortion rights.

The president does appoint Supreme Court members. However, since Roe v Wade, the Supreme Court has been reluctant to take on the abortion issue.

In the event the Court does decide to re-hear Roe v Wade and in the event it does overturn it, the issue goes to the states. State legislatures will then vote on abortion rights. I can assure you that they will pass them. Women on both sides will make sure it happens. We will see mobilization on this issue like we've never seen before.

I will be leading the charge here in Texas.

So, please don't let this old canard stop you from considering the McCain/Palin ticket.

It's the Supreme Court issue that worries me the most.

I think there are as many as 3 positions on the Supreme Court in the next 4 years. That is a big change. At this point the pros outweigh the cons on the McCain/Palin ticket.. but it's still a concern of mine.

"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today."

-- James Dean

I was a fence sitter, now I

I was a fence sitter, now I am intrigued. I am watching the RNC and very moved by everything I have watched and am hearing! Many questions remain unanswered but nevertheless this McCain/Palin ticket is going to be hard to beat.

Loved Cindy McCain's story. Didn't realize how involved she was in community work.

I really like McCain's personal prisoner of war story.

I liked the fact that he acknowledges that our schools need to evolve to meet the technology revolution and the way children learn today vs yesterday! That is huge! I'm excited to see how this evolve's and I am engaged!

Great Post!
XOXO,
Freda
Founder
www.AlphaWomen.com
"Those Who Say It Can't Be Done Need To Get Out Of The Way Of Those Who Are Doing It!"

I agree

I had kind of thought of Cindy McCain as a kwepie doll, if I thought of her at all. Now, I definitely like her. I, too, had no idea of how engaged she is with children. I also thought the way the McCains circled the wagons around Bristol Palin during the convention was great. That poor kid...I thought they were very supportive.

dem or rep

that is why my dear we need to have another party, i mean
a 3rd party.

to tell you the truth i am sick and tired to only be able to pick from 2 parties.

it is not fair, i am positive most people do not care for either parties but none have any other choice to choose anything else.

i do not get this why there is only two party. well it is
obvious these two parties are so powerful that none will allow another party to rise up.

i am sick and tired of Bush polices and for sure i will not VOTE for another Bush look a like.

Mac Cain is another Bush, another Bush polices will run our great country.
Mac Cain and his parties will start another war, with either Iran or Russia.

why can't any of you see what are the main reason. to make more prophet, everything is about money and power,
Republicans never cared for middle class their every move or policies were only for rich folks.
well at list when Dems do make profit they do share some of it with the rest of regular folks.
you know the MIDDLE CLASS which they are back bone of every countries, they are the one's who suffer the most in every chaning polices or laws.

i will never VOTE Mac Cain. and i am INDEPENDENT.

people we need to have a 3rd parties, some how another party must rise.
yes i know that we can find the names of other candidates from other parties, what is the point when none of them
will ever have the same power as Dems and Reps.

I couldn't agree more, except

I'm not impressed with Sarah Palin. Not to say that she hasn't been effective in her own arena -- I'm just not overly impressed. People are acting as though she is the first ever female politician (and applauding at the fact that she is a soccer mom and likes moose burgers??? pahleeze!). To me, Palin's selection was purely a political ploy -- certainly McCain's right. But I still don't know if his strategy will work in his favor in the long run. That remains to be seen; although a lot of people appear to be that naive.

But when the evangelical right say abortion is a sin, but yet act as though teenage fornication is okay (as long as they were engaged anyway), it gives me pause.

When McCain constantly spews war, US aggression and a military response to every conflict, it gives me pause.

When I realize that McCain's speeches and promises sound exactly like George Bush, it gives me pause.

But more importantly, when I look across the sea of faces at the RNC and don't see a representation of "America" or people that look like me, it brings me to a full stop.

As we get closer to the election, I become more and more sicken and disheartend by the status quo and a possible extension of the Bush administration, and how people are willing to frivolously throw away their vote.

lvshudiva

"There is no strong performance without a little fanaticism in the performer." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

who to vote for now?

Many of us take for granted that we are lucky enough to live in a country that offers us so many freedoms and so many choices. No matter who or what you believe in, you have the freedom to do so and are allowed and encouraged to act on it. So, whatever you feel in your heart get out there and make it count. We can only make a difference if we make a choice, and then act on it. These are the liberties and values our forefathers(and mothers) fought hard for so lets make them proud!

"Glamorous"

I have just this to say

I have just this to say about Palin~
If my daughter, like hers, were to get pregnant at 17, I will be damned if I will let her get married. 17 year olds should never get married! Do you all know that you don't even gain abstract thinking abilities until around 12 or 13 years old??? Do you know that boys mature at a slower rate then girls? So this little boy who gained some initial higher mental functioning a few years ago, and was able to successfully convince a girl to have sex with him, most likely with BOTH under the influence of alcohol (as shown on Utube videas that the republicans pulled off the internet) is now going to be a husband? A faithful, lifetime partner to this little girl who's mother is pro life? Please.
Sarah, don't tell my daughter that she legally can not have an abortion. That is her choice, just like it was your choice to bring Bristol's little boyfriend up on stage (looking like a deer in headlights) holding your daughter's hands for your own "save face" political gain. It was shameful.
I don't care how powerfully or how elegantly she read the pre-scripted teleprompter.
Perhaps, since mom is gonna be too busy, Bristol's dad should help her through all the emotional struggles she is going to face being a teen mom AND a teen wife. Way to think this through. Whether I go Mc Cain or Obama I am truly disapointed by this womens Choice to limit her daughters choices.
Sara
www.createplaylearn.com

There may be another side to this story...

I read this comment a few days ago and while I agreed with some of these concerns, it upset me. I am pro-life and I disagree with people using abortion as a form of birth control, but I do not believe in the government having a say as to when a woman can and cannot have an abortion. Looking past the obvious tone of disapproval for the Palin family situation, I do see your perspective, but maybe there are one or two others to consider.

Granted it was in the 50’s, but my mother was 18 when she became pregnant with me and my father was only 17, and they got married. I arrived just before their next birthdays—not that a couple months makes a difference in maturity level. Their parents did not have much money and did not provide a whole lot of support. My parents struggled but were good parents. After their three children grew up and started moving out, they did get divorced as they realized that they had grown into different people. Today, my brother, sister and I are all working with my dad to build a great company. The entire family—dad and his wife with mom and her husband—with the kids and grandkids all get together several times a year. In a way, we are fortunate as my parents are still young enough for us to do great things together! Having to work hard to raise three children at a young age gave them strength and character that I feel they passed on to their children…three children of young parents who didn’t get into drugs, didn’t get in trouble with the law, work hard and pay taxes.

I don’t tend to listen to gossip-type media so forgive me if I missed the big disclosure that Sarah Palin forced her daughter to give birth and that Bristol truly did not want to have her child. Or that Sarah Palin forced Bristol’s boyfriend to marry her daughter. It seems to me that saying “I will be damned if I will let her get married” about your daughter is very similar to your accusation that Sarah Palin said “I will be damned if you will get an abortion” to her daughter — a mother forcing a viewpoint on a daughter.

Maybe Bristol and her boyfriend will turn out to be strong, independent, loving and successful parents. Sometimes we make mistakes and have to work through the consequences. I believe that when parents raise children with the right ethics and values, and provide support and compassion, the children have a fighting chance to actually come out ahead and feel good about themselves when faced with such great challenges. Maybe instead of bashing Sarah Pailn, we should applaud and support Bristol and her boyfriend for confronting their situation and handling it the way they feel is best for them and their unborn child.

Good Post

I, too, missed the part where Sarah forced her daughter to give birth and forced the kids into marrying. I, also, missed the part where she hypocritically "condoned" the premarital sex.

Maybe they have a chance. Maybe they don't. But they're certainly trying to do the right thing. Who could ask for more?

Thanks to both of you for

Thanks to both of you for mentioning that. I was confused as well when I her response. I never heard Palin say any of those things or even suggest them. I was pregnant at 18 and no one forced us into getting married. I loved my high school sweetheart. We didn't work out. That being said, I know several other girls that also got pregnant and got married and 17 years later are still married with more children.

I like that Palin supports her daughter regardless of the mistake or the circumstances. I am sure if her daughter wanted to have an abortion Palin would have considered the options, I am guessing would have suggested adoption first though.

I think we give these kids a shot and see what happens. It isn't like it is the first time that a teen has gotten pregnant. Having parental support is 50% of the battle and it sounds like these kids have a fighting chance because of both parents support.

If I were in Palin's shoes and it was my daughter, I am not sure I would push abortion on my daughter as an option but it would certainly be discussed. Especially if she wanted to have the baby or if she was willing to give another family a crack at raising a child, I would really push her in that direction. Getting pregnant isn't a crime for heaven sakes. Good can come out of some of these misfortunes and accidents. That is just me though.

Great Post!
XOXO,
Freda
Founder
www.AlphaWomen.com
"Those Who Say It Can't Be Done Need To Get Out Of The Way Of Those Who Are Doing It!"

If you like the way things are going:

If you like the way things are going, then vote for four more years (McCain/Palin). If you don't, then vote for someone else.

The idea, apparently defended by some here, that the SCOTUS has no influence on abortion rights is pretty far out there though. If they overturn Roe vs Wade - it will be up to each state, meaning abortinos in blue and purple state, and no abortions in red states. Then of course in the future, abortions could be ruled unconstitutional...

About Obama being from a corrupt state: I have a friend who is from a rather poor country with a completely corrupt government. Does that make my friend corrupt too? No. She is actually a very honest, kind and hard working person. Corruption is not a virus that you catch from living in the same city as corrupt people...

So those who are against the right to choose, pro preemptive trillion dollar wars, like the current state of the US economy, believe that the richest should get richer and the middle class and the poor should get poorer, think that being feared and dispised by all other countries on earth is a badge of honor and makes us safer, do think that global warming and all other invoronmental problems are made up or don't count anyway because we (or at least white Evangelicals) are going to experience the great Rapture any day now and all go to heaven... or those who just think that having a woman who says she likes mooseburgers as VP is more important than anything else - please vote for the Republicans! They have the perfect ticket.

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